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Someone please settle this argument.

Post by Cobthecobbler on Fri Jul 02, 2010 3:37 am

Okay, me and GoldenFerret are having an argument.

My Argument:
  • If a Pokemon with, say, 14 IV's in Speed is given a Power Anklet, the offspring will have 14 IV's in speed. Meaning that the parent passes down it's IV to the offspring, exactly, and guaranteed

His Argument:
  • Power Items help improve the IV's for a certain Stat, and will pass down and vary with the parent's IV. Meaning, if a Pokemon has 16 in speed, the offspring has a 60% chance of having that stat improved.

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Re: Someone please settle this argument.

Post by TheGoldenFerret on Fri Jul 02, 2010 3:59 am

I belive that the smarter, more handsomly and obviously correct one is correct.... (me)


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Post by ethan06 on Fri Jul 02, 2010 5:35 am

I don't know either, but I'd place a guess that it works roughly the same as an Everstone, and passes it down with a 50% chance. But I'm staying outta this, okay?

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Post by FanOfPokemon on Fri Jul 02, 2010 6:53 am

To tell you the truth, I think Cob is talking about HG/SS and TheGoldenFerret is talking about D/P/Pt, so your both right. In HG/SS the offspring gets the Iv's exactly like the parents had, and in D/P/Pt is what TGF said.

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Re: Someone please settle this argument.

Post by ethan06 on Fri Jul 02, 2010 7:22 am

This was introduced in HGSS, so no. I know this for certain (I remember seing it on Serebii somewhere).

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Post by FanOfPokemon on Fri Jul 02, 2010 7:45 am

Isn't that what I said? I'm almost positive that Cob's statement is HG/SS and TGF's statement is D/P/Pt.

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Post by ethan06 on Fri Jul 02, 2010 9:52 am

It isn't. The concept did not exist in DPPt, so therefore TGF's argument is moot, as he says there was a chance. Because the concept didn't exist, it would not have made a difference. I may be wrong; anyone care to try it out?

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Post by TheGoldenFerret on Fri Jul 02, 2010 2:05 pm

Actually this concept did exist in dppt, that's why poweer items were created =P

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Post by Cobthecobbler on Fri Jul 02, 2010 2:14 pm

No, this concept did not exist in D/P/Pt. The Power Items were created for EV Training purposes only, if you scroll down to the Power items on this page: http://www.serebii.net/games/breed.shtml you will see that it says "Heart Gold and Soul Silver add another means of..."
Whereas, in D/P/Pt, the only description you'll find for them is to EV Train.

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Re: Someone please settle this argument.

Post by TheGoldenFerret on Fri Jul 02, 2010 2:19 pm

Orly, well i never iv breed in dppt so i would not know,

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Post by FanOfPokemon on Fri Jul 02, 2010 2:20 pm

That's what I said right? If Cob's using HG/SS he's right, if hes using D/P/Pt TheGoldenFerret's right.

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Post by Cobthecobbler on Fri Jul 02, 2010 2:24 pm

Well, the thing is, the Power Item IV Trick did not exist in D/P/Pt. It purely exists in HGSS+ So in D/P/Pt. giving a parent a power item would not have any additional effect.

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Post by Quail on Fri Jul 02, 2010 6:31 pm

Cob is right, I've done extensive IV breeding for 31 IVs in both defenses for a Dusknoir and 31 IVs in Attack for a Rhyperior (If I remember correctly).

However, I think one of the Dusknoirs had around 28 in Defense when it should have had 31, could have calculated it wrong or something though.

Also the ONLY thing the items did in D/P/Pt was increase the gaining of EVs, nothing to do with IVs.

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Post by ethan06 on Fri Jul 02, 2010 10:45 pm

So Cob's right, if TGF is talking about DPPt then he's definitely wrong.

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