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Post by TheGoldenFerret Tue Jun 01, 2010 2:12 pm

Probopass
Magnet Pull
Leftovers

Thunder
Magnet rise
stealth rock
pain split
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Bronzong
Levitate
Occa Berry

Rain Dance
Earthquake
Skill Swap
Hypnosis
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Sceptile
Overgrow
Leichi berry

Dragon Pulse
ThunderPunch (or frenzy plant)
Leaf Blade
x-Cutter
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Lanturn
Volt absorb
Mystic Water

Hydro Pump
Thunderbolt
Attract
Thunderwave
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Slaking
Truant
Life Orb

Slack off
Shadow claw
Fire Punch
Return
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Gardevoir
Trace
Twisted Spoon

Psychic
Calm Mind
thunderbolt
shadow ball
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different strategies are

Double wall
Bronzong uses rain dance 1st turn/eathquake second turn
Probopass magnet rise first turn/thunder second turn

Bronzswap
Bronzong uses skill swap on Slaking

Calm mind healer?
Lanturn and gardevoir
gardevoir uses thunderbolt to heal up lanturn when needed lanturn continues to be an annoyer

Double Sweeper
Gardevoir is a special sweeper while sceptile is mainly phisical sweeper, with one special attack

Any more ideas?
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Post by Escaped Tue Jun 01, 2010 3:49 pm

I never really took into the double battle environment, so some of the stuff I'm about to say might be void.

Thunder is a real chancey move. [Edit: took consideration for Rain Dance]

Kinda alot of Electric attacks.

Doesn't Attract just infatuate the opposite gender? If so 50% chance you'll face a opposite gender and then about 50% it will likely to attack (did not take consideration of seperate pokemon gender % and genderless).
Also doesn't infatuation go away if you switch Pokemon?

You might want Bronzong holding damp rock to make the rain last for awhile, cause I see it as more beneficial protecting Probopass, Sceptile from Fire and giving Lanturn a boost than just protecting Brongzong with Occa Berry (no battler would dare to attack with a fire attack in a rain dance unless it's 4x)

Slaking troubles me with his ability, so I always overlook him. Why'd you choose him over other Pokemon?

Edit: If Rain Dance last for awhile 'might' wanna replace some thunderbolt for Thunder.

I give about 5/10, needs work.
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Post by TheGoldenFerret Tue Jun 01, 2010 6:17 pm

Well most people tend to use male natured pokemon when battling, I looked it over when studing more than my fair share of battles, plus thunderwave also is a bonus... But even if it's a ground type so thunderwave protects, my stab hydropump with mystic water coupled with most of the favorable grounds a Rock, I one shot pretty much all the time... Also I thought of using a damp rock, but didn't favor me, considering bronzong is my slowest next to probopass, and his rock negates fire, but brozong being his only weakness fire chose that I at least need one turn to put it up if I can last one turn then I'm fine.. Also with slaking I stated I used skillswap from bronzong to switch skills (in that situation I do not set up rain dance for it is again unfavorable in this situation and will usually only use slaking to wipe out enemies fast (slaking beig the 4th highest in attack)) that's how that works
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Post by Escaped Tue Jun 01, 2010 6:57 pm

Ohh gotcha, overlooked skillswaps ability, cause I mainly stick with single battles.

I don't fully know about Bronzong's full situation, but my past experience with a x4 weakness and a damage reducing berry has always led to a 1hko. If you wanna survive for at least 1 turn, might wanna consider Focus Sash.
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Post by TheGoldenFerret Tue Jun 01, 2010 7:03 pm

Bronzong only has a 2x weakness, but if one fire attack hit him before he could use rain dance he could lose alot more help, bronzong is mainly a support, raindance for probopass's thunder skill swap for slakig then hypnosis or reflect or benifits, earthquake is there cause he needs a physical Attack to be a little useful
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Post by Quail Tue Jun 01, 2010 8:12 pm

I will destroy you.
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Post by Cobthecobbler Tue Jun 01, 2010 8:56 pm

You're going down, next weekend, I'mma save this to notepad. >Very Happy
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Post by TheGoldenFerret Tue Jun 01, 2010 9:15 pm

U can copy it, study it... And find every counter u can for it... You'll lose anyway >=D
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Post by Escaped Wed Jun 02, 2010 12:10 am

Woops mixed up Bronzong's typing.
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Post by Quail Wed Jun 02, 2010 2:50 pm

TheGoldenFerret wrote:U can copy it, study it... And find every counter u can for it... You'll lose anyway >=D

I could easily counter everything you have. Considering using my two open spaces to do that.
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Post by TheGoldenFerret Wed Jun 02, 2010 3:24 pm

But you won't, cause... well you won't...
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Post by Quail Wed Jun 02, 2010 4:57 pm

Yeah, not worth my time (probably won't even have enough time anyway).

All I would have to do is get a Golduck and then probably a Spiritomb.

Golduck having Cloud Nine and Spiritomb having Taunt.


Really the only thing I'm afraid of is your Slaking (and possibly your earthquake strategy), but I switched around my move sets so I could incorporate Focus Punch into Rhyperior's move set again.
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Post by Cobthecobbler Wed Jun 02, 2010 8:33 pm

Yeah, Slaking is the only thing I'm afraid of, so I'm gonna need to find a way to make it stay in battle so my Breloom can do away with it.
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Post by Quail Wed Jun 02, 2010 8:58 pm

Just gotta take out his Bronzong really and then his Slaking only becomes 50% effective due to Truant.
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Post by Cobthecobbler Wed Jun 02, 2010 10:15 pm

Makes sense, I'll do away with Bronzong using my Flygon's Fire Blast
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Post by TheGoldenFerret Wed Jun 02, 2010 10:32 pm

Cept that's why bronzong has an occa berry, plus full special defense ev's so it will be able to come in at one attack at least... wether it be rain dance or skill swap, and slaking's speed ev's are maxed, so it outspeeds ur breloom one fire punch will knock it into obvlivion i win =D
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Post by Escaped Wed Jun 02, 2010 10:32 pm

Arcanine's Flare Blitz will take out 65% HP to Occa Bronzong. Take advantage of Bronzong's slowness Smile

Keep Slaking in with Umbreon Mean Look+Baton Pass or Dugtrio
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Post by TheGoldenFerret Wed Jun 02, 2010 10:41 pm

Sounds promising, but you shouldn't really plan on holding back bronzong, i mean he's really not your biggest threat cause even if skill swap doesn't play in, i can still do big damage... i usually OHKO every opponent with full happiness+Life orb+return, that's 204 base damage without the stab bonus... plus i don't belive in switching out unless it is u-turn or baton pass, so i don't fear meanlook (that's also why i fail at choice sets but thats a tale for another time) oh did i mention my gardevoir has 31 ev's in special attack... full special attack ev's twisted spoon and a special attack nature, it's got 174 special attack at level 50 ^-^ so i have a decent revenge killer as well
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Post by Cobthecobbler Wed Jun 02, 2010 11:15 pm

I believe you mean IV's. and I just figured out I'm training Breloom COMPLETELY Wrong, well, not in terms of EV's, in terms of how to get the attacks I need. Turns out, SHROOMISH, Not breloom, Learns Seed bomb and Spore. And that means I have to keep it a shroomish until level 45, THEN Evolve it. It's rediculous D: T-T
I'll still beat your Slaking, somehow.
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Post by TheGoldenFerret Wed Jun 02, 2010 11:23 pm

thats what i did with my ludicolo xD, he was lotad for 45 levels xD... we'll see i suppose... we'll seeeee

oh cob on an off topic note... a video i commented like forever ago apparently got the highest rated comment with 42 likes...
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Post by Cobthecobbler Wed Jun 02, 2010 11:31 pm

Well, at least my Breloom is a Female so It's easy to get an Adamant nature... And I'll try for some good IV's.

And which video?
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Post by TheGoldenFerret Wed Jun 02, 2010 11:34 pm

well juuuust... C

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqCIv8X92rc

last mirror b fight... i just pointed out something and everyone was all OMEFFIN G THIS IS.... SOOO TRUE... and i'm like... sure?
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Post by Cobthecobbler Wed Jun 02, 2010 11:38 pm

Lol xD Stupid Breloom, I'm just gonna get all it's EV's as a shroomish, then rare candy it on Pearl. I also need to scour Marriland for an Impish Skarmory, they're IMPOSSIBLE to breed DX
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Post by TheGoldenFerret Wed Jun 02, 2010 11:39 pm

I'd help u but this shiny treeko is the death of me... it's making me rage...

oh btw... >.> why no my siggy no work?
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Post by Quail Thu Jun 03, 2010 2:02 pm

Bred a Duskull with 31 IVs in both Def and Sp. Def and has an Impish nature.

My Porygon-Z has 31 IVs in both HP and Speed (though the speed doesn't matter too much because I stupidly didn't EV train it in it) with 183 in Sp. Atk at lv 50 with Adaptability and Silk Scarf.

The Natus that I'm breeding right now will at least have 31 IVs in Sp. Atk and high speed IVs as well as the possibility of having 31 IVs in HP (the first Natu I caught had both 31 IVs in Sp. Atk and HP)

Off to catch a Rhyhorn now.
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